Carols Questions

[Carol Journey]

Ok guys, Im not quite as upset as the other players, I dont mind getting played or evicted because that is all part of the game,my vote is up in the air. So Ill be going based on things that I find important in these final questions.


Kevin -- You really made almost no effort to talk to me in this game. Anytime we spoke it was me reaching out to you and even then we only had 1 solid conversation about the safes, but beyond that it was clear you had no interest in working with me or anything. You did win comps to save yourself and twice you had gifts given to you that advanced you further, you were safe at the double eviction, safe after getting out Jordan from both the actual competition we had AND that week of voting. So that's 4 rounds of free passes you got plus an extra prize that kept you safe even if someone nominated you, you got to take over as HoH. You did do enough to get the wolf prize that kept you safe in the double eviction round, but you didnt really earn your safety because Jordan left the week you won HoH. You technically did the least of everyone since you werent a vote and had no actual power to choose who left between Andrew and Jordan. You just got really lucky that you got a prize for evicting Jordan randomly.So thats the hard time Im having with giving you my vote. I feel like you did a lot at the start but starting about final 10, you didnt do anything and overall didnt do anything strategic that I saw in the entire game. You may have been doing stuff, but I can only vote based on what I saw and what I saw was someone who won a few things, I dont remember exactly what comps you won, but I remember like 3rd HoH was just "Majority Rules" and I really dont even count comps like that as a "win"since its fairly luck based. I dont have an actual question since I dont feel like I know you at all or that you made any effort to want my vote in the finals. So anything you can say that might sway me based on these things I told you is more than welcome and Ill read it. Even with all of that youre the front runner for my vote, but not by much really. Im like 40-35-25 between the 3 players right now.


Danielle -- Obviously you did betray me, but I dont mind too much. I really only kept you in the game because I felt you were the easiest to beat in the finals so I think we just kinda used each other and I got beaten out in the end. I never trusted "you" but I always trusted that you would do what was best for you. So I felt 100% solid in you wanting to go to the end with some combo of me-karen-marvin because everyone knew if Kevin got to the end, he would probably win hands down. Everyone talked about it and it was just general consensus so thats why I felt pretty secure with you. Youve made a lot of claims about controlling things and being 100% on top of things, however, one of the funniest moments in the whole season to me was about final 9 or 10 you sent me a convo between you and Erika and said like "how can anyone talk to this bitch shes so dumb etc etc." Yet in the convo you sent it clearly says when I scrolled down:

Danielle R to Erika - Maybe we will be safe since we can just get Carol nominated by the Phantasm since shes been nominated so many times before

Idk if you meant to send me that part of the conversation or if you didnt realize it was there or whatever, but it did make me wonder how much you actually were paying attention in the game because at that time I had only gone up once....the same number of times as Kevin, Andrew, Amanda, and Erika AND Boogie and Karen had actually been up twice by then......So then cut to the end of the game now and it really seems like youre saying, you sat on a throne the whole game while every other player ran to you, begged for your favor and did anything you wanted just to get you further. Which is fine if you actually feel that nobody else was here to play or if you feel were all sub-par players, but if you DONT feel that way, Id like you to tell what you think each jurors BEST game move was......Its important to know what other people in the game are doing and what theyre best moves are so you know how to combat that so Id like to see how Danielle viewed the other players. And to all the jurors, if she DOES accurately say what your best game move was, then you should give her the credit as a puppetmaster and give her your vote because she clearly was the social butterfly she claims to be. If she doesnt know what your best move was, then she wasnt paying close enough attention and just lucked out getting to the end.


Marvin -- I really dont know what to ask. I still never got used to the idea of you being in the game. We never talked game really and Amanda didnt do anything comp or strategy wise and as Marvin you are in the same boat as Kevin for me. So anything youd like to add that might make me wanna vote for you is appreciated.


Thanks guys and good luck!

[Danielle Reyes]

Hey Carol!

I'm going to first address your statement about the IM. I did realize I put that there, and it was only after I sent it. However, I never really thought much into it. I feel like, with Erika anyways, and sometimes with Andrew as well..I tried to downplay how much information I really had about people. I feel like if they thought I wasn't smart, or into the game, I was more likely to not be on their radar. The comment about you was early on, and I think it was when Erika was starting to get annoying because everyone was aligned with her. I don't think I wanted to give her much true insight in what I was thinking.

Id like you to tell what you think each jurors BEST game move was......Its important to know what other people in the game are doing and what they're best moves are so you know how to combat that so Id like to see how Danielle viewed the other players.

Karen: Karen's best move in this game was at fast forward night. She made an alliance of all woman to take out Marvin/Kevin. Everything that Erika was good for, was now on Karen. She played this out perfectly by talking to both you, and I about this. She even went into it and won the HOH challenge. I'm not going to talk about her faults that round because that isn't part of the question. However, her trust in me and you was perfect with the information she had at that time. She did the best she could and made sure Erika left over herself that round.

Carol: You had many game moves that could have been your best. I'm not going to pick when you saved yourself from the block, due to it just being a challenge win. I am going to pick the time when you did not use the veto to save Andrew or Jordan. In addition to that, you voting out Jordan over Andrew was, arguably, your best move. That vote was very very close. In your eyes, breaking up Marvin and Jordan was a perfect move at that time. It weakened Marvin, so that Marvin/Kevin would be the easy targets for everyone else in the game without any allies left. I don't think you hated Andrew/Erika as much as me, and instead I think they almost were a benefit for you to have in the game. Erika and Andrew wanted Marvin and Kevin out, and you taking out Jordan made sure they were both in the game. If Andrew didn't leave the round after with the elimination challenge, I think the entire end game and fast forward night would have been different. Final 7 itself would most likely have led to a Marvin or Kevin eviction, leading to me leaning more-so on you once again.

Erika: I think, like myself, your best game move was your entire social strategy that you had from the start of this game until the end. With that, I'm not going to pick a single moment as much as just give examples of what I'm talking about. Your best move was playing low key, talking to everyone, and making sure you were never the target for elimination at any time. If you didn't play this way, you would have been taken out faster then you were. You played smart, and social instead of strong in challenges, or argumentative. I think that in itself was the best thing for you. Your alliances with so many people at once paralleled how I was playing, to the point where it most likely would have succeeded if Andrew didn't leave in the elimination challenge. To single out a moment of genius with your social game play, I can point out when Lisa left the game. Your vote was the most important vote she could have had. You controlled her leaving, our conversation was what ended her fate. You were able to stay low key, non threatening, even though you made such big moves like Lisa's eviction. People always underestimate the power of always being a voter, don't they?

Andrew: The backdoor of Enzo, by far, was your best move in this game. Something I had a little part in. The entire thing was orchestrated amazingly. It is hard to backdoor in Big Brother ever since the veto became a random draw. However, you proved that it was still possible. You took our the phantom, or so the person we all thought was the obvious phantom. I also think that HOH round was so crucial for you in this game, because of the amount of allies you seemed to come out the next week with. You had allegiances that I think became more real after that week than they were beforehand in my eyes.

Jordan: Your best move in this game was taking a back seat to Marvin when the two of you entered. You became the least threatening in the game, even less then Karen. It became to the point where Kevin and I did not want to see you leave the game, because we didn't even see you as any sort of threat to us. That was the best thing you could have done at that point. I think it was the best shot at the two of you making it into the final six without getting evicted. Too bad it didn't work, but was still a smart move.

Lisa: I think two things were huge in your game. The first was Kevin. Believe it or not, he always talked about you and how much he liked you. He even offered the possibility of a final 4 alliance to me, with you and Erika very early on. Your alliance with him, and the trust you got from him was a huge part in benefiting your game. However, I think your best move was the part you had in the Enzo backdoor. I think him leaving the game was going to benefit everyone, esp because we all thought he was the phantom. In addition, I think you doing that move led for you to get a lot more people on your side. If the twist didn't end the way it did, and Enzo was the phantom. You would have been in an awesome spot, and you would not have gotten 9th place at all.

Boogie: I think the best move you made was what you did in Week #3. You had the veto, didn't act mad when Kevin nominated you but instead became more social that week then you had in the first two weeks. I remember talking to you and making an alliance to watch each others backs to get through this phantom part of the game. You most likely talked to everyone that week, and I think that was the best thing you could have done at that point. You won power, and instead of disappearing..you used it to chat with everyone, and bond with people to improve your game. I think that helped you not be targeted until the phantom twist started and was a huge part in your success early on in the game.

[Danielle Reyes]

Let me know if I missed anything you wanted me to address, or if you have additional questions.

[Erika Landin]

Redemption for Danni on this question!

[Danielle Reyes]

Thanks <3.

[Carol Journey]

Aug 8, 2012 22:01:10 GMT -5 Danielle Reyes said:

Carol: You had many game moves that could have been your best. I'm not going to pick when you saved yourself from the block, due to it just being a challenge win. I am going to pick the time when you did not use the veto to save Andrew or Jordan. In addition to that, you voting out Jordan over Andrew was, arguably, your best move. That vote was very very close. In your eyes, breaking up Marvin and Jordan was a perfect move at that time. It weakened Marvin, so that Marvin/Kevin would be the easy targets for everyone else in the game without any allies left. I don't think you hated Andrew/Erika as much as me, and instead I think they almost were a benefit for you to have in the game. Erika and Andrew wanted Marvin and Kevin out, and you taking out Jordan made sure they were both in the game. If Andrew didn't leave the round after with the elimination challenge, I think the entire end game and fast forward night would have been different. Final 7 itself would most likely have led to a Marvin or Kevin eviction, leading to me leaning more-so on you once again.

[Kevin Campbell]

Hey Carol, when this game started I did try to make several efforts to talk to you. I know you were away a lot but I kind of just never got a chance to speak to you early on and I kind of discredited you as a real player up until the the Phantasm twist really. Later on in that game I will admit that was my bad.

I don't really think I got a free pass in this game. After winning 3 competitions in the first 3 rounds of the game I got my first secret power. A power which I knew would give me the most bang for my buck if used during the Phantasm twist by giving me immunity and also nominating someone as well. So those two weeks before that I knew I had to make sure I was safe all on my own and I went to the HOH's you and Andrew and made sure that happened. In Week 3, I was HOH and I remember telling you I thought about putting you up but I respected that you came to me and pleaded when no one else had and that I would keep you safe so the following week when I did the same you kept me safe. So when I was able to save my power for that round I don't think that was a free pass. I earned that.

As for the Jordan eviction, I was originally going to nominate Erika/Andrew because Danielle told me they were both gunning for me, as well as you and Marvin told me that everyone wanted me gone while both Erika and Andrew said they hadn't heard a single thing about anyone wanting me gone which made me distrust both of them. However, I decided to throw Erika one last chance and nominated Jordan instead since her and I had never spoken and I didn't want Marvin up because I felt like he and I had a good conversation and could work together. Against my wishes Jordan was evicted and what happened next really wasn't something I could help. I didn't get 4 free passes, I will say that yeah during the Jordan eviction I did get one for the competition where last place went home, but at the same time it's not like I could win HOH either. When I got another power I didn't really care if it was used, but just knowing I had the power I knew I could pretend I used to so that I could influence someone's nominations. I really couldn't help that the twist benefited me, that was out of my control.

I know that to many it may seem like I didn't have an amazing strategy. But I had a strategy. I didn't need an alliance with everyone to make it to the end, I think that just makes you look desperate and dishonest. All I felt like I needed was a few strong allies and my head on my shoulders and I could make it here. I invested my trust in what I perceived as the best players early on in Lisa and Erika, also in Danielle who I knew could deliver in this game. I felt like at other times I had decent relationships with people and that those could help me too, were they alliances? No. But that doesn't mean they didn't help me make it here. My strategy early on I felt was working well, I had a strong alliance that was working well. Once that fell apart I didn't really think there was much I could say to people anymore because of my perception of being a threat. So I kind of just worked within my own alliance a lot. Though when I needed to I had the right conversations at the right time. Like when you got evicted Carol. I knew that if I could convince Karen that nominating me would end in her demise that I could get her to do what I wanted and it worked. I did what I needed to and I'm proud of that.


P.S. When I won majority ghouls I had actively asked almost the entire cast what they had said so I could have the best chance at winning, not necessarily luck. I tried my best to win that and did. The rest of the competitions I won though did require more intelligence and skill.

[Dustin]

Carol is a hot bitch.

[Marvin Latimer]

Marvin -- I really dont know what to ask. I still never got used to the idea of you being in the game. We never talked game really and Amanda didnt do anything comp or strategy wise and as Marvin you are in the same boat as Kevin for me. So anything youd like to add that might make me wanna vote for you is appreciated.



Carol, I feel like im in a really tough boat right now. It's really hard for me to stand up here at the finals and make a case for me to win the game when my experience in this game was SOOO much different than everyone else. It honestly feels like i was playing a completely different game. While everyone was playing "Big Brother" Marvin was busy playing "Phantasm."

It makes it even more difficult due to the fact that im sitting in the final 3 next to Kevin and Danielle. I completely respect the game they both played and i'm not going to stand up here and lie about the game i played or try to take credit for things i didn't do. Thats not who i am and thats not what im about.

So do what you have to do, i have no hard feelings no matter what happens. If there's anything else that i can do or say to help make your decision easier at all, just let me know.