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Post by Carol Journey on Aug 9, 2012 2:52:43 GMT -5
Can I just say, Im offended for all of us based on Kevin's comparisons to us to real Big Brother players.....
Sharon? Sheila? Shelly? Chicken George? Enzo? Kathy?
Danielle was good.
but the other set, OMG are kidding me? I thought he didnt play socially all that much but Im shocked at how little he saw in us in this game. He kinda spun these players to seem like they were pretty good, but at the end of the day its still and insult.......like calling a woman a whale cause you personally feel whales are "majestic" at the end of the day, you still just got called a fucking whale!
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Post by Erika Landin on Aug 9, 2012 8:02:11 GMT -5
LOL, Carol!
Shelly?? She was terrible! I give myself a little more credit than that!
Idk... I guess I'm leaning towards Marvin right now. I don't think Kevin was as aware of anything, and felt like he kind of screwed up, because he was never here! Had he been around more, things may have went different!
Danielle- I can't give her amazing credit for the social game, because NOBODY did like her. People weren't following her, they were just working together to get big players out. She was no mastermind. Kevin is right, you can't be an amazing social player IF nobody likes you. Like if she loses this thing, it's because she's a bitch!
I'd like to see Marvin win b/c he was taken to the finals b/c they didn't thin he would win. They felt like they could beat him, and would keep the win amongst themselves!
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Post by Mike "Boogie" Malin on Aug 9, 2012 11:46:56 GMT -5
So, I have never done this jury thing before XD so I am trying to figure stuff out. Admittedly this is the first game actually finished lol.
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Post by Mike "Boogie" Malin on Aug 9, 2012 11:51:06 GMT -5
My feelings on kevin, I still feel like he gave up the game after he won the power until he needed to start playing again.
I really don't know what to ask or who to vote for still trying to figure it out.
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Post by Erika Landin on Aug 9, 2012 12:30:41 GMT -5
I feel like I'm leaning towards Marvin, ATM.
I respect social games- but Danni is hated! She didn't do anything to preserve relationships. Her personal attacks and demeanor were in no way a "bad cop" move. There was no point in acting like she did. Shes just a bitch.
I don't feel like winning comps is a MAJOR deal winner. He sucked socially, and Mike is right- he hid when he was safe and only came out to play when he needed to win.
That's how Lisa got evicted! He wasn't around to discuss things, b/c he used his secret power!
I like Marvin, and I feel he isn't maliscious, and played socially.
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Post by Lisa Donahue on Aug 9, 2012 13:55:44 GMT -5
take my word, wasnt a pregame alliance. But that alliance of Kevin/Danielle was based on previous friendship Anyhow, I don't like Kevin's answers AT ALL. Danielle really impressed me with her answers!!!!!! I still don't wanna reward someone for being a bitch, but I don't know I'm kind of torn. I'll see their answers and decide, coz Kevin is not doing a good job proving himself or answering questions well!
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Post by Lisa Donahue on Aug 9, 2012 13:59:37 GMT -5
Shelly?? She was terrible! I give myself a little more credit than that! You did play so much like Shelly, though. I mean ya you might hate her coz BB13 newbies were horrible, but you pretty much played the same game. Socially, and with alliances... no loyalty to a certain person etc.
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Post by Lisa Donahue on Aug 9, 2012 14:06:06 GMT -5
I feel like I'm leaning towards Marvin, ATM. I respect social games- but Danni is hated! She didn't do anything to preserve relationships. Her personal attacks and demeanor were in no way a "bad cop" move. There was no point in acting like she did. Shes just a bitch. I don't feel like winning comps is a MAJOR deal winner. He sucked socially, and Mike is right- he hid when he was safe and only came out to play when he needed to win. That's how Lisa got evicted! He wasn't around to discuss things, b/c he used his secret power! I like Marvin, and I feel he isn't maliscious, and played socially. Seriously? So can you tell me what did Marvin do?? Danielle wasn't likable ya, but you don't have to be likable to win a game! She was PLAYING the game, I don't respect how she played it... but she did play it! And seriously guys, you kinda need to give Kevin some credit for his start social game, at least. And winning competitions DOES matter... this game is competitions, social game & game moves. Danielle and Kevin did well at all of them, except Kevin was better in comps. It was a WAY harder game for Danielle and Kevin. Marvin had his girl friend play with him, so it was LESS work to do while playing as Amanda. He laid low, sucked ass, was socially horrible, didn't make any moves. Basically just didn't do anything. Plus his reward to evict 2 PEOPLE, which he didn't deserve... coz he didn't have to do anything as a ghost, it wasn't fair and I really feel like he got a free ride. Just basically he had to work LESS than anyone, giving him a vote to win is just BULL SHIT and means you're bitter. Anyone who is voted out of this game deserves to win over him, even the QUITTER Kaysar, at least he was playing the game on his OWN
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Post by Mike "Boogie" Malin on Aug 9, 2012 15:09:49 GMT -5
If you get to the end you played the game, everything you do is strategy in a game like this.
Marvin, I think he deserves to win because he had probably the biggest target on his back after the twist was revealed.
Danielle, made the right moves at the right time and won the veto during the double eviction at final 9 that really saved her.
Kevin, he slid under the radar and won the comps he needed too.
However, I feel kevin is less deserving than the other two. To me it is deciding if Danielle or Marvin deserve it more.
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Post by Lisa Donahue on Aug 9, 2012 15:49:02 GMT -5
No, if someone gets to the end... doesn't necessarily mean they were playing the game. It could also mean that they just got carried or people kept them around coz they sucked . Survior and Big brother finals are FULL of goats, people who didn't do shit! We all know that. Marvin is just the best example for goats. I hate it when people are like "He's still there in the final, you're not.. so he did play the game" no he didn't, that's bull shit and so cliche. If Marvin wins, this will be one of the biggest jokes in ORGs history.
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Post by Lisa Donahue on Aug 9, 2012 15:52:10 GMT -5
I might just vote Danielle just to make sure the joke doesn't win seems like some people would vote Marvin, ew.
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Post by Mike "Boogie" Malin on Aug 9, 2012 15:56:45 GMT -5
This is my philosophy for the show, which I think applies to these, I am still learning.
Everything a houseguest does inside that house is strategy, the way you eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, the way you sit, the way you blink. If you win the game then you played the game. Of course some winners are more deserving of others. Jordan (in the actual show) is probably the least deserving winner because she was carried by Jeff. Why did she have to do anything to that point though? Jeff was taking the bullets for her. If she attracted attention to herself it would have been bad gameplay. Being carried is a strategy, everything is strategy whether they plan it to be or not.
There is only one case in the actual show where I believe the winner wasn't the winner, and that was bb3, Danielle should have beat Lisa, but because of the DR sessions she didn't.
I am at least hoping that we can rule Kevin out of this? I cannot see him as the winner of this thing.
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Post by Lisa Donahue on Aug 9, 2012 16:03:03 GMT -5
Sorry, Mike but since when is being carried a strategy? lol. That's just poor gameplay and it's not even a strategy. Jordan did get carried and protected by Jeff yes... but why did she win? Not because her STRATEGY was to be carried. She had an awesome social game. Her strategy was to be friendly, super liakble by everyone, have 0 enemies. Now that's a strategy!!! A respectable one, so Jordan IS a deserving winner for her amazing social game. Not for competitions or game moves. Marvin didn't do any of the three, all of that besides being given so many advantages over Danielle and Kevin.
I think ruling Kevin out is so unfair, he played a better game than Marvin. He seemed to be able to touch each of the 3 aspects of this game >> strategically, physically and socially. I just think he's screwing himself over with his answers, I don't like them while Danielle is really impressing me with her answers.
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Post by Mike "Boogie" Malin on Aug 9, 2012 16:13:32 GMT -5
Like I said I see everything as a strategy, and I said I am not sure between danielle or Marvin (at least I tried to ) I see what you are saying about Marvin now though, you are right about the luck being a huge factor why he is there.
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Post by Erika Landin on Aug 9, 2012 17:26:57 GMT -5
Why should Marvin pay b/c Dustin invented the worst twist possible to mankind? Wasn't his fault!
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